Max ([info]avatraxiom) wrote,
@ 2008-11-19 19:23:00
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How Many Bugzilla Users Are There?
Sometimes people wonder--how many Bugzilla installations are there? How many people are actually using Bugzilla?

This is hard to say. We tend to get around 100,000 downloads for each new version of Bugzilla, but we have no idea how many of those are complete downloads, how many of them result in working Bugzilla installations, etc.

However, Bugzilla has an auto-update feature which retrieves a file from one of our servers, approximately once a week, provided that a Bugzilla administrator has logged in that week. This was introduced in Bugzilla 3.0, but it wasn't working properly until 3.0.4.

In October 2008 we had 55,998 hits on the update file. Since Bugzilla installations check it roughly once per week, divide that number by 4 and it comes out to probably 14,000 Bugzilla installations that are using version 3.0.4 or higher (which is when this feature started to work).

I'd estimate the average number of users for a Bugzilla at around 200, with the major open-source installations having tens of thousands of users, and the smaller corporate installations having around 20-100. That gives us roughly 2,800,000 Bugzilla users around the planet, counting only Bugzilla installations that are version 3.0.4 and higher, have not disabled the update check, have an administrator who regularly logs in, and are not in an environment where they can't access the update file (which is actually fairly common in locked-down corporate environments).

-Max




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[info]Justdave [justdave.net]
2008-11-20 08:51 am UTC (link)
You might try counting unique IPs hitting that file over the course of a month. That might be a better indicator since some people might change the update check frequency, too.

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[info]avatraxiom
2008-11-20 04:10 pm UTC (link)
You can't change the update check frequency without editing the code, so that's unlikely. Also, Webalizer unfortunately doesn't count unique IPs hitting a page, and RHEL doesn't keep Apache logs from that far back.

Oh, and you know, I think this number doesn't count people who access the file over SSL--I'm not sure how or why that'd happen, but there are hits on it in the ssl_access_log.

-Max

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Wrong frequency
(Anonymous)
2008-11-20 11:36 am UTC (link)
Your estimation is too optimistic. Bugzilla checks for new releases every day, not every week, see bug 371727. This decreases your result by a factor of 7, i.e. 400,000 users "only".

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Re: Wrong frequency
[info]avatraxiom
2008-11-20 04:12 pm UTC (link)
Well, I'm also not sure if webalizer counts 304s as hits, so there might actually be 50,000 installations. Like Dave said, I'd probably be better off counting the unique IPs, if I could get that data.

-Max

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Over estimate
(Anonymous)
2008-11-20 01:08 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget to take into account that many people will have accounts on multiple bugzilla installs - for different open source projects, or internal/external installs etc.

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Re: Over estimate
[info]avatraxiom
2008-11-20 04:13 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that's very common in open-source installs, but less common in corporate installs, so I think it balances out. It's all very estimate-y anyhow.

-Max

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Number of Bugzilla Users
(Anonymous)
2008-11-20 01:42 pm UTC (link)
ShamWow! Incredible statistic!

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Re: Number of Bugzilla Users
(Anonymous)
2008-11-21 02:41 am UTC (link)
Sounds believable. Atlassian have sold 10K+ licenses for JIRA (each with 200 users makes 2M users), and I reckon they're about as common as each other in the Bay Area when I talk to clients.

This is all hand-wavy though. Another way to guess might be by the number of admins in a community.

~Matt
mdoar@pobox.com

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[info]jojobear99
2008-11-21 09:21 pm UTC (link)
This isn't completely related to this post...but it is a bugzilla question :)

So Netbeans uses a slightly customized (at least I think it is) bugzilla to track their issues that need fixing. Well some people on the forums are complaining that if a bug is marked as a duplicate, that the votes for that issue don't propagate to the issue its now a duplicate of, so the only way to get a count of those votes is to manually add them up...and people saying we can't fix it directly because its how the underlying bug tracker works... just wondering really whether this was a feature you'd heard users request or whether bugzilla has plans to fix that or not fix that or already has or whatever. Does that make sense?

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[info]avatraxiom
2008-11-21 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the question makes sense. Votes is really something that we need to abstract away into a plugin. It needs lots of features, but it itself is such a niche feature (used by only a few installations) that we don't put the time in to make it work better. If we abstract it away into a plugin, I think it could get more of the attention it deserves.

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reg upgrade
(Anonymous)
2009-01-07 12:00 pm UTC (link)
hi i am new to bugzilla i want to upgrade bugzilla 3.0.6 to bugzilla 3.2
i have my mysql dump , when i upgrade i am facing many problems , i just installed 3.2 version and restored the mysql dump.
there is no installation procedure for the upgrade please advise in the following email id uvaraj21@gmail.com

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Re: reg upgrade
[info]avatraxiom
2009-01-08 12:46 am UTC (link)
The right place to ask this question is on the support-bugzilla mailing list, described here:

http://www.bugzilla.org/support/

-Max

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